Meetings

An Ad hoc

committee meeting

 

 

 

 

 

Chairman

Er, ladies and gentlemen, (bangs on table) I call this meeting to order. As you know, this meeting has been requested by Roger. He feels the subject is important and can be decided on quickly. As this is an ad hoc committee there are no minutes to be read, and I think we can accept those present as constituting a quorum. I …

 

 

 

 

 

 

Maureen

Er, excuse me, Madam Chairman  a point of order. I feel that we cannot simply accept those present as a quorum.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Chairman

I wish to point out that the constitution allows five to be the minimum number for a quorum. Does that answer your objection?

 

 

 

 

 

 

Maureen

Yes, Madam Chairman. Thank you.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Chairman

To return to what I was saying before - this is an ad hoc committee. That is to say, it has been called for one purpose only, and for this reason may I have the meeting’s approval for not taking minutes? Except, of course, to record any decision taken.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Maureen

Er, on a point of order again, Madam Chairman. Surely every meeting must have minutes - otherwise any decision taken may not be valid.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Mahesh

 Er, Madam Chairman, minutes really aren’t necessary for a decision to be valid. And after all, as you stated, the decision to be arrived at will be recorded, and therefore legal.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Maureen

In view of what Mahesh has said, Madam Chairman, I withdraw my reservations.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Chairman

Any other comments or objections? None? Thank you. Roger, you have the floor to introduce the subject.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Roger

Thank you, Madam Chairman. Well, briefly, I feel we should re-define the coffee drinking areas in the course centre …

 

 

 

 

 

 

Mahesh

Oh, Madam Chairman …

 

 

 

 

 

 

Roger

Mahesh, can I finish?

 

 

 

 

 

 

Mahesh

Madam Chairman I really don’t feel there is anything to discuss. This is a waste of our time.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Roger

I disagree, Madam Chairman, and I’d like to remind Mahesh that I still have the floor. I know this point has been raised often enough before, but unfortunately the decisions taken have just not been put into practice.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Mahesh

On a point of information, Madam Chairman, notices about where you are permitted to drink coffee have been put up in …

 

 

 

 

 

 

Chairman

Can we have some order, please? Two differing points of view have been expressed. Under the circumstances, I rule that a discussion with a view to arriving at a consensus is in order. Roger, could you make your position a little clearer?

 

 

 

 

 

 

Roger

Yes, Madam Chairman. Firstly, to answer Mahesh’s point of information: notices about where you can drink coffee may have been put up, but that does not mean that they have been obeyed.

This is just my point - we all know that people still drink coffee in the classrooms and even in the computer room. Quite apart from the mess that is made and the possible damage to equipment, this shows a great lack of consideration towards those of us who like clean and tidy common areas, and not to be faced with half-filled, sticky cups of cold coffee everywhere we turn.

There are piles of these cups all over the course centre. Many of these dirty piles have been there for weeks! And I don’t think there can be any excuse for it when several kitchen areas have been made available, and there is a large cafeteria area in the building next door.

I feel we have a moral duty to crack down on untidiness in the course centre – so that we can all enjoy a cleaner, fresher working environment.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Len

Madam Chairman, may I say something? I like my cup of coffee, Madam Chairman, but I can’t help agreeing with Roger. It’s uncomfortable, to say the least, to come into a room where some of the previous occupants have been drinking coffee and left a pile of half empty cups sitting in the corner.

 In fact, one or two of the participants have told me privately that they think this untidiness brings down the tone of the course centre.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Maureen

Madam Chairman, Len has made a very good point there, but there are two sides to this question. I’m a tea drinker myself,and I drink my tea in the cafeteria, but I wish to say that I understand the feeling of coffee drinkers. I know a number of people who can’t work properly unless they have a cup of coffee close at hand. You can compare drinking coffee, for instance, to smoking or chewing gum …

 

 

 

 

 

 

Roger

Yes, but chewing gum doesn’t leave piles of half empty cups all over the place, does it?

 

 

 

 

 

 

Maureen

(raising her voice) Oh, Madam Chairman, Roger, I would hardly say that drinking coffee was so offensive to other people.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Roger

On the contrary …

 

 

 

 

 

 

Chairman

O.K., O.K. We must have some order. Roger, you were out of order. Maureen, could you continue with what you were saying earlier, please.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Maureen

Well, Madam Chairman, all I wanted to say was that coffee drinkers have needs just as much as everyone else. Indeed, we are in the majority!

 

 

 

 

 

 

Mahesh

Hear, hear!

 

 

 

 

 

 

Maureen

Perhaps we could arrive at a compromise?

 

 

 

 

 

 

Chairman

Yes, the meeting seems equally divided between the needs of some people who like to take their coffee with them wherever they go, and the needs of those people who want to have a cleaner, fresher working environment.

If I understand Roger’s point correctly, he feels that rules about where you are allowed to drink your coffee should be obeyed once they are made, while Maureen’s point is that some people need to have their coffee with them at all times - if they are to work to their best ability.

Perhaps clearly defined areas showing where you can and where you can’t take your coffee cup should be the answer?

Could we have a proposal then, please?

 

 

 

 

 

 

Roger

Madam Chairman, I feel that members are not prepared to come to agreement on this issue. I therefore feel that a more extreme motion may be in order. I therefore propose that there should be no coffee drinking at all in the course centre.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Mahesh

Oh, Madam Chairman, this is hardly in the spirit of compromise.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Chairman

Mahesh, you’re out of order. Any seconder to Roger’s proposal?

 

 

 

 

 

 

Len

I second it, Madam Chairman.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Chairman

Can we vote on that proposal, then?

 

 

 

 

 

 

Mahesh

Madam Chairman, I propose an amendment to the draft proposal: firstly, that there shall be no coffee drinking in classrooms. Secondly, that coffee drinking be limited to the cafeteria and teachers’ offices. And finally, that teachers give a longer coffee break within the teaching block so that people can get to the cafeteria, drink their coffee, and get back again..

 

 

 

 

 

 

Chairman

Seconder to the amendment?

 

 

 

 

 

 

Maureen

I second it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Chairman

So there’s a draft proposal banning coffee drinking in the Centre. There’s also an amendment to the draft proposal, which would define a coffee drinking routine. Shall we put the amendment to a vote by a show of hands? Those in favour? Two. Those against? Two as well. As Chairman, I wish to use my casting vote - against the amendment.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Mahesh

Oh, Madam Chairman, you realise that, in doing so, you’ve endorsed a very restrictive proposal?

 

 

 

 

 

 

Chairman

Yes, Mahesh, I realise that. Can we proceed to the draft proposal?

 Those in favour? Two. Those against? One. Abstentions? One. Yes, Mahesh?

 

 

 

 

 

 

Mahesh

I merely wish to explain my vote. I abstained as a protest against the use of your casting vote, Madam Chairman, in supporting a blatantly unfair motion.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Chairman

Thank you, Mahesh. Is there any other business? O.K., I declare this meeting closed. Thank you.

 

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based on an original piece of training text from the former SIDA training centre, Lövedalen


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